The Boeing that created this plane is in name only. McDonnald bought Boeing. McDonnald is very famous for it's hatred for organized labour. I think you could trace every problem for this plane is it dispersement (outsourcing) of it's parts. Oops the wings don't fit. It was their way to minimize costs....but at what cost? The generations of Boeing workers had a pride of results, they were vested in the sucess of their products. Outsourcing to other cheaper deals to people who don't really care about the success of the product but live for the temporary jobs outsourced to them abrigates the quality of the product. In time this aircraft will be fixed, however if they had chosen to get it right the first time it would have saved billions of dollars in grounding and refitting to remanufacturing. I've been a Flight Attendant for 35 years and I will not step on this plane for a long time. The amount of politics, lobbying, the FAA being controlled by special interests, is no help in building quality aircraft.
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Boeings "Dreamliner" starting to look like a nightmare.
by Glander ini am truly surprised to see boeing trying to roll out a plane so full of bugs and flaws.
hope they can get things straightened out.
major us industry giant, lots of jobs..
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An Elder Reads CoC !!
by TTATTelder ini have recently joined the site.
i was just appointed an elder this summer.
i started discovering the ttatt (the truth about the truth) last year after putting a few things together myself concerning the leadership and then doing some research online.. i really enjoyed jwfacts.com, jwsurvey, and others.
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Welcome. I still have that sick stomach feeling and I've been out 20 yrs.
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Paul belived paradise was heaven
by DS211 innow i want all to add whatever they want to.
i was just reading the bible reading for tonights meeting and started 2 cor 12...and what i noticed was that paul here is revealing something, a revelation or vision of sorts, here it says (and its from the nwt for lurkers).
12 i have to boast.
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dog is god
IMHO Paul is nothing less than the first giant hijacker of Jesus teachings. Jesus never taught what Paul taught. I pay no attention to his BS.
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Do you detect an underlying sadness ?
by Phizzy inwhenever i talk to jw's, and even in some of the jw official videos, i detect a definite vibe of sadness coming off these people.. i am very sensitive to "atmospheres" and to peoples emotional state, you wouldn't think so, because more often than not i do not react to what i detect, i just let people get on with it.. but i do get this feeling that they are sad, probably because very, very, very deep down they realise that it is all false, maybe ?.
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dog is god
I can't speak to their "realizing deep down that it is not the Truth". I do see that there is a huge hole in their hearts of non-fullfillment. Living for what isn't and will not ever be.
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Does Anyone Remember the "Around The World Assemblies"?
by titch inso, being that it is 2013, i recall that it was 50 years ago, that the "around the world assemblies" were held.
for those of us who lived in southern california, the first week of september was when we had the assembly, and it was held at the rose bowl in pasadena.
yep, the rose bowl, with no seats, per se, but just those hard benches as seats.
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I think I was 11 at the Rosebowl DC. My mom and I drove from Seattle in my dad's 60VW. I fainted from the heat while waitin in line for lunch. I woke up in the 1st aid area. It was the HEAT. OMG THE HEAT. We volunteered in the snow cone booth. At least we were in the shade. Snow cones were a giant draw for wasps. My mom started in the San Pedro Cong (an old movie theatre...we would have to scrub the outside weekly because many drunks pee'd in the entrance). She had a woman friend Sister Casey. She died and she had a lot of kids. My mom wanted to adopt her youngest, Sherman Casey. We brought him home and holy cow what a mess. She told him to go to bed and when my brother tried to force him to his room he said, "I'm going to blow a hole in your belly so big you can stick your head thru". That was that. I've wondered what ever happened to him. He was scary tho. I also remember not understanding one word uttered as the delay from each speaker echoed so bad. The news papers had a running headline as Billy Graham was having some convention. For him they would tally up the total from all days....the JWs just that day's number. I loved that we stayed in a motel where I could jump in the pool for a few hours to get my body temp and sticky sweat off of me. I think I remember there being a not very noticible choir section singing the four part notes from the green songbook.
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WATCHTOWER IN A PANIC!
by JW GoneBad injws are in need of more kingdom halls in many major u.s. cities.
at this years agm where it is expected that most of the faithful will be able to listen to the meeting (being tied in by video), dont be surprised if the wts 8 gb members take part in a symposium delivering some long winded appeal, petition, plea, proposal, proposition, solicitation or otherwise hit-on the masses for $$$ in order to lighten the burden and overuse that many kingdom halls are experiencing.
an acquaintance from the west coast mentioned to me that in late august thru early september of this year that a number of pow-wows involving close to 5,000 elders from numerous areas (riverside, los angeles, ventura and orange counties) took place to drum up financial support from the 800+ (not sure) congregations in those areas.
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No way. The KHs around here are being sold and others consolodated. Scam.
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Interesting change of direction by Pope Francis
by besty inhttp://www.chicagotribune.com/news/chi-pope-francis-gays-20130919,0,6719110.story.
tribune news wire reports8:54 p.m. cdt, september 19, 2013. vatican citypope francis said the catholic church must shake off an obsession with teachings on abortion, contraception and homosexuality and become more merciful or risk the collapse of its entire moral edifice "like a house of cards".. .
in a dramatically blunt interview with an italian jesuit journal, francis said the church had "locked itself up in small things, in small-minded rules" and should not be so prone to condemn.. .
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If he keeps talking this way he will probably die suddenly.
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What Was The Effect of You Knowing Hypocritical JW's?
by LoisLane looking for Superman in(1) did it cause you to leave sooner than you might have, otherwise.. (2) it didn't bother you enough to do anything about it.
hey, we are all imperfect.. (3) did you want to prove you were better than they, and nothing they could do or say, was going to stumble you.. (4) they stumbled me, probably as much i stumbled them.
we all know it's an old boy's club and we are not going to tell on each other.. loislane.
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I own my life....triple ditto. One sister who studied with me from the age of 12 up.....I saw her carrying on with an elder. His truck would park in front of her house the minute her kids were off to school and would leave one minute b4 they got home. It really took someone else to mention it b4 I saw it for what it was. THey claimed to be typing the school schedules etc. Once that one blew up I went thru some issues and stood back and questioned...am I the only fool who believes in these teachings. This sister's 16yr old daughter thought she was hot. She started dating this sweet worldly boy who was earning a football scholership. My husband started studying with him. He dropped his scholshp so as not to go to college. Then he dropped the bomb to my husband that the daughter was regularly spending the night with him. At that time the society was really big on "secret lives" being exposed so we decided to talk to the girl's father. He was in a bad place because his wife would not let him deal with anything. The next day, bright and early, this woman who basically taught me the truth, was my person I looked up to was banging on our door. I opened the door and she was sooooo angry she was literally red faced and splotchy necked. She asked me if I had gone to the elders, (which is what we were supposed to do). I said, "No. I think that is your job". She was a "pillar" of the cong and then the character assasination gossip started. We paid for what they did. I was rocked to the core. Then the girl breaks up with this kid. HIs parents were furious. I had seen a LOT in the cong but this made me so disillusioned that it was the big prep for leaving for me.
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What is happening in Mexico?
by ILoveTTATT ini have heard that a lot of the english congregations in mexico are shutting down... they are condensing 5 congregations into one, or in some areas even disbanding the only english congregation.
jw's who have been living in mexico for many years and probably were sheltered by being in the english congregations will now have to move to spanish congregations.... .
ilttatt.
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LongHairedGal....you made me laugh out loud when you said, "back calls". Lots of memories with that. That's what they were called by my mom and by everyone until nu lite "return visits".
I know a guy who was an elder in our cong for years. He was a pretty big partier, owned a race car etc. His wife, sweet and beautiful began to get sensitive regarding the amount of drinking going on. He divorced her (just about killed her) and he was disfellowshipped. He partied on with "worldly girls" that I now work with. Then he was reinstated and married a sister who single mindedly pursued him...a real catch for a JW. He was not just a janitor but the master of all janitors, house cleaning sisters, and window washers. Set up his business well. He retired to a JW enclave in Puerto Vallerta with a pool and housekeeper. He set up the business in his wife's name, so he could collect full social security without the income problem. I speak spanish and for the life of me I cannot imagine him going door to door in a real Mexican neighborhood. His linen white pants might get dirty. His sister is my friend and gives me updates. (she was never "in") His wife pretty much stays in the states. They barely have a friendship. I also have discussed how much of a target living in an american community can make you. Kidnapping is big business there. I just have seen that for him being a jw was always a matter of convenience for which ever agenda he had. Getting cheap workers, find a wife etc. I think Mexicans see the hypocracy.
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They kicked my 89 yr old mother to the curb as well. She had written "No memorial....NO funereal!!!!" And one of her least favorite brothers whom had not visited her for years made a little speach inserted in the service meeting about how onery she was. Nice group. 64 yrs of loyalty and that's what she got.